2019: Art for all - University of Wollongong – UOW

What attracted you to move to Jakarta and take up the role as the Director of Museum MACAN?

As a curator of contemporary Asian art, my work has taken me throughout the Asia Pacific region, including Indonesia. So when I was approached to lead this new major project in Jakarta, the opportunity to make a real impact not just on the art world but on cultural exchange and education here in Indonesia was irresistible.

Even though we are a private museum, we are actually a museum for the public. The fact that education is such a core part of our philosophy means that we’re not just talking to people about art, we’re also talking to young people about their future and about how they can participate in societies of the future.

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My name is Aaron Seeto and I’m the Director of Museum MACAN, which stands for the Museum

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of Modern and Contemporary Art Nusantara, here in Jakarta. The vision is how do we use

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art to create experiences for not just for young people, but people throughout their

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entire lives, to think about being more creative or to understand the world that’s going

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on around them through the eyes of artists. This is really important in Indonesia, because

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as founder of the museum often says, we are living in a multiracial multiethnic, very

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complicated society, and art allows us opportunities to experience everything. So we can see the

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world through eyes of other people when we understand art or when we look at art. So

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this is an important cornerstone of that educational remit. We want to ensure that this museum

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is a place for cross cultural interaction so not just presenting Indonesian art but

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also to present and welcome artists from around the world to present the work to the Indonesian

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public. We bring about 1500 kids from lower socioeconomic backgrounds into the museum

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every year. We have a sponsor who helps us to do this. This is often their first experience

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of a museum, or every their first experience of an artwork in real time. So these kids

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get access to our educators and have a great day in the museum. We have this place in the

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museum called the children’s arts space, and it’s a place where twice a year through

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the support of our sponsor UOB, we are able to bring an artist and allow them to make

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work for specifically for children. So in this space, our educators work with the artist

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to create activities, things are very tactile and it’s really a long term view. One of

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the great opportunities that I’ve been given by working here in Indonesia, the context

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isn’t just Indonesia, but it’s global… is to try and piece together a program that

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not only talks to Indonesian culture and society, but also creates connections both historically

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and also from other places around the world. We’re just about to open a major exhibition

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by the Chinese artist Xu Bing and Xu Bing he’s one of the very important Chinese artists,

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and also emerges at a time not only when china is changing, it’s kind of the end of the

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cultural revolution, but also the globe begins to open up. His work doesn’t really fit

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into basic categorisation, it is Chinese but it’s also not Chinese, he’s using Chinese

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language to make us understand that there is language and that there is assistance of

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language and that there’s communication and miscommunication. I think that’s the

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thing we can gain by looking at the programs of museums, it’s not just something to look

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at on a wall, but great artists tell us where we’ve come from and also open up our ways

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of looking at things that we probably didn’t imagine before.

Can you describe your vision for Museum MACAN? What do you see as the opportunities and challenges for Museum MACAN going forward?

Our first mission was to build the infrastructure. In Indonesia there really was no infrastructure like this. So we’ve built a museum which is really striving for international standards of presentation and facilities. So we are able to control the humidity and temperature, for example, which is all very important for the safekeeping of art.

Secondly our vision is about education and cultural exchange and how we use art to create empathy and understanding. We know that in a place like Indonesia that is multi-ethnic and multi-racial, art and culture help people to better understand their own societies and their own histories.

The third component is really about global participation. We want to ensure that this museum is a place for crosscultural interaction. So our goal is to not only present Indonesian art but be able to present and welcome artists from around the world to present their art to the Indonesian public.

What part does education play in the Museum MACAN?

Education is central to Museum MACAN’s vision and ethos. In designing our education program, we took a holistic approach. So as well as providing on site programs, we sought to partner with schools, provide educational resource materials for teachers, create peer networks and run forums and workshops, to help teachers engage their students with art, create experiences and share knowledge.

We also have a place on site called the Children’s Art Space. Twice a year with the help of a sponsor, we bring an artist into the space to create a work specifically for children. Our educators work with the artist to create activities to help open up opportunities for young children and their parents to engage and interact with the artworks.

What excites you about living and working in Jakarta?

Indonesia is a fascinating place. It’s a vibrant, multiethnic, multi-religious society. It’s made up of more than 265 million people. Jakarta itself is a very dynamic, interesting city with around eight-10 million people, while the greater region of Jakarta is more like 20 million. The city fluctuates by two million people day to night. So I really see Jakarta as being like a living organism. Wherever you go, you are always meeting someone from somewhere else.

There are many barriers, including barriers to education and employment. So the impact that a museum like this can have, is very real.

You’ve had such an interesting career from working as a curator for Sydney’s Chinatown at the City of Sydney and Curatorial Manager of Asian and Pacific Art at the Queensland Art Gallery/Gallery of Modern Art in Brisbane. Can you describe some of your career highlights?

After I finished my honours degree at the University of Wollongong I worked for a non-profit organisation in Sydney called 4A Centre for Contemporary Asian Art.

It was a very different situation to working in a museum. It was very small, artist focused and we had to raise everything that we spent. So it was a really good learning opportunity to not only understand how to work with artists but also how to plan and manage a small organisation.

My role at 4A Centre for Contemporary Art played a crucial role in raising awareness of art from elsewhere and cemented my interest in contemporary Asian art.

From there I went to the Queensland Art Gallery as head of Asian and Pacific Art working with artists and collections which in turn lead me to being here in Jakarta.

What attracted you to study creative arts at the University of Wollongong?

The degree that I did at Wollongong, in the time that I did it was really exciting because it exposed me to disciplines and theories outside of the visual arts. I also got to meet a range of people with different perspectives outside of my key interest area that really opened up a way of looking at things that maybe I wouldn’t have got from a more traditional art school.

Also being in a smaller place like Wollongong allowed me to engage with the other cultural institutions in the city and not just be creative, but really make things happen.

What is your current view of the role of arts and culture in society?

I think that art can play a really important role in society in term of its ability to help us look at things from different angles and take a broader global view. Great artists have an ability to help us to look at things differently, to understand who we are and where we have come from.

More than ever, not just in Indonesia, but all around the world, there is a need for people to try to see the world through the eyes of somebody else.

Can you tell us what’s in store for Museum MACAN?

We have just opened a major exhibition by renowned Chinese artist Xu Bing. This is the first and biggest retrospective of this artist in South East Asia. His work doesn’t really fit into basic characterisation. It’s Chinese, but it’s also not Chinese. He’s using language to make us understand that there are systems of language and that there is both communication and miscommunication.

His work is thoughtful and ground-breaking in its exploration of language and the impact of globalisation and cross-cultural understanding on human society. The exhibition includes important works and installations that span more than 40 years of artistic practice.

Aaron Seeto
Bachelor of Creative Arts (Visual Arts) (Honours), 2001